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 <title>Indeed, no counterexamples  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Robert,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your reply. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was thinking that the cycles have to be connected, which is obviously not true. So therefore my thought-to-be-counterexamples weren&#039;t correct. Thanks for the help! I wouldn&#039;t mind deleting all those comments, but I am not sure how to :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best, Nieke&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:54:48 +0100</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>niekeaerts</dc:creator>
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 <title>Not a counterexample  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Nieke, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;unfortunately, your graph is definitely not a counterexample. I could not follow your  explanations, let me instead show, why your graph with the indicated cycle has the desired 5-CDC. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your graph is planar, 2-edge-connected and the circuit C is a boundary of one of the faces.  It turns out that for all such instances the conjecture is true: consider all face boundaries -- a collection of  circuits. Now a proper 4-coloring of the dual graph splits the circuits into four cycles, the given circuit  is contained in one of them. (The fifth cycle can be empty in this case.) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it, and if you still believe you have a counterexample, post again. For now, I am not reading the other comments, as they prove something that turns out to be false :-). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes,   Robert&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:32:18 +0100</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Robert Samal</dc:creator>
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 <title>!!Ignore previous comment!!  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I pressed reply at the wrong statement. &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:16:22 +0100</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>niekeaerts</dc:creator>
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 <title>Explanation of the 3-connected counterexample (Part II)  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
 <link>http://openproblemgarden.org/op/strong_5_cycle_double_cover_conjecture#comment-7083</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Now &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/17e709ced0e19a6e52141211a47a6a05a5ec0b9a.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (b,c) $&quot; /&gt; still needs to be covered twice, which cannot be done by 1 color as then again one needs 6 colors. One of the colors has to be color 2, otherwise this will leave &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b94226d9717591da8122ae1467eda72a0f35d810.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ b $&quot; /&gt; towards &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b1d91efbd5571a84788303f1137fb33fe82c43e2.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ a $&quot; /&gt; and &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/aeba4a4076fc495e8b5df04d874f2911a838883a.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ d $&quot; /&gt; and therefore there will be no escape possibility from &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b94226d9717591da8122ae1467eda72a0f35d810.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ b $&quot; /&gt; for the two new colors. So the triangle &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/fec2e7c6f8d9096e6b022a072cead6df937e860a.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ a,b,c $&quot; /&gt; is colored with color 2. By symmetry the triangle &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/d43ab28202b89e77c1601c0e19bdacaa97fa0b93.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ f,g,h $&quot; /&gt; is also one color cycle (color 4). Now &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/9bca65c99dab1222bbbcc138976929c504969380.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (c,e) $&quot; /&gt;, &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/7e42d5c900e9017cef88952a2fa03dc8eec63ffe.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (d,e) $&quot; /&gt; and &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/513b44a3c8e747796504df50ef8d1f77cdaabd10.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (e,g) $&quot; /&gt; are not colored and therefore need to be in the cycle of color 3 and the cycle of color 5. But then &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5105762e0c97083905ebf07919c7d4d5ed38dce3.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ e $&quot; /&gt; has degree 3 in both cycles which is a contradiction.&lt;br&gt; So a 5-cycle double cover containing this cycle does not exist. &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:15:11 +0100</pubDate>
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 <title>Explanation of the 3-connected counterexample  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Consider the circuit &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b8bf1fadfa7115861d729a37d5bc53c2e385fe8c.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ a,b,d,f,h,a $&quot; /&gt; to be color 1. And assume there is a 5-cycle cover containing this circuit as one of the cycles. We distinguish the cycles by color.&lt;br&gt; Then &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5222230cbd099e54def48f67983234c09189fb99.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,b) $&quot; /&gt; and &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5732811a530217909b5c1fdf39bfa28bd62587b8.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c) $&quot; /&gt; are colored with the same color (color 2) in the second cycle covering them, and similarly &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5222230cbd099e54def48f67983234c09189fb99.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,b) $&quot; /&gt; and &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/bf1a9bda946e1203118fd32770489b831132833c.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,h) $&quot; /&gt;  have the same color (color 3) in the second cycle covering them. (As otherwise &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5732811a530217909b5c1fdf39bfa28bd62587b8.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c) $&quot; /&gt; is colored twice by the cycle &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/a68be603dd3ed93caaab986973da615456069421.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c,a) $&quot; /&gt; which, if allowed, quickly shows necessity of 6 colors)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:14:34 +0100</pubDate>
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 <title>Consider the circuit  to be  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Consider the circuit &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b8bf1fadfa7115861d729a37d5bc53c2e385fe8c.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ a,b,d,f,h,a $&quot; /&gt; to be color 1. And assume there is a 5-cycle cover containing this circuit as one of the cycles. We distinguish the cycles by color.&lt;br&gt; Then &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5222230cbd099e54def48f67983234c09189fb99.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,b) $&quot; /&gt; and &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5732811a530217909b5c1fdf39bfa28bd62587b8.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c) $&quot; /&gt; are colored with the same color (color 2) in the second cycle covering them, and similarly &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/6505ef036ca0fb994f043dfc5a24e28a3d18fa19.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c),(a,h) $&quot; /&gt; have the same color (color 3) in the second cycle covering them. (As otherwise &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/5732811a530217909b5c1fdf39bfa28bd62587b8.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c) $&quot; /&gt; is colored twice by the cycle &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/a68be603dd3ed93caaab986973da615456069421.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ (a,c,a) $&quot; /&gt; which, if allowed, quickly shows necessity of 6 colors)&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:10:09 +0100</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>niekeaerts</dc:creator>
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 <title>?: 3-connected Counterexample  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
 <link>http://openproblemgarden.org/op/strong_5_cycle_double_cover_conjecture#comment-7079</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/d62ace5da5055d584636e992f170c7714824959a.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ |VG|=8 $&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/0a81b4edfcf559b222dc24bec3388744b6eca3ae.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ |EG|=12 $&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/3ff413b62ceccf40ef733e4bad982bb2290db260.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ VG=\{a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h\} $&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; Adjacency matrix (in alphabetical order): &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b0e2394b5f272c06a188f0320a1f9e032ad6143e.png&quot; alt=&quot;\[ \left( \begin{array}{llllllll } 0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1 &amp;amp;  1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1 &amp;amp;  1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0 \end{array}\right)\]&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the explanation, see the following comment. -----------&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It could be so that I am making a mistake, if so, please explain my mistake to me.&lt;br&gt; I came to this point by simple trial and error.&lt;br&gt; I would like to upload a simple picture, but I seem to be a little lost on how to do this.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Nieke Aerts&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:09:38 +0100</pubDate>
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 <title>?: Counterexample for a graph with a 2-cut  (re: Strong 5-cycle double cover conjecture)</title>
 <link>http://openproblemgarden.org/op/strong_5_cycle_double_cover_conjecture#comment-7076</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/d62ace5da5055d584636e992f170c7714824959a.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ |VG|=8 $&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/0a81b4edfcf559b222dc24bec3388744b6eca3ae.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ |EG|=12 $&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/3ff413b62ceccf40ef733e4bad982bb2290db260.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ VG=\{a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h\} $&quot; /&gt;&lt;br&gt; Adjacency matrix (in alphabetical order): &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/7b6211a86e93145c2366fb71a06c85b3d54ea5ea.png&quot; alt=&quot;\[ \left( \begin{array}{llllllll } 0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1 &amp;amp;  0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;0&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;1&amp;amp;0 \end{array}\right)\]&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Consider the circuit &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/6c4199ce4019f08f37dad7d06fafc2d463c267dc.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ a,c,e,g,f,d,a $&quot; /&gt; to be color 1, now on either side of the 2-cut, we need three more colors, of which only one color can serve both (due to the 2-cut), so we need at least 6 colors (6 cycles).&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; -----------&lt;br&gt; It could be so that I am making a mistake, if so, please explain my mistake to me.&lt;br&gt; I came to this point by simple trial and error.&lt;br&gt; I would like to upload a simple picture, but I seem to be a little lost on how to do this.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt; Nieke Aerts&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:47:13 +0100</pubDate>
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        &lt;div class=&quot;envtheorem&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conjecture&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Let &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/05d3558ef52267cc1af40e658352d98883668ee3.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ C $&quot; /&gt; be a circuit in a bridgeless cubic graph &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b8e7ad0330f925492bf468b5c379baec88cf1b3d.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ G $&quot; /&gt;. Then there is a five cycle double cover of &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/b8e7ad0330f925492bf468b5c379baec88cf1b3d.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ G $&quot; /&gt; such that &lt;img class=&quot;teximage&quot; src=&quot;/files/tex/05d3558ef52267cc1af40e658352d98883668ee3.png&quot; alt=&quot;$ C $&quot; /&gt; is a subgraph of one of these five cycles. &lt;/div&gt;

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